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Refuse To Take Handicap
Path: BadHabits · Prev: ThrowingTheBoardAgainstTheWallDentingTheWallAndTheBoardPriorToUppercuttingYourOpponent · Next: NegotiatingAfterALoss Well, I don't know whether this ranks among Bad habits, but it gives me the occasion to tell the hilarious tale of a player who used to come and play in our club in the early days. I'll call this man Ernie. Ernie had just learned to play from a book, and as always, we suggested that he'd start to play on a 9 by 9 board. He saw the others playing on a large board, and decided that there was no reason for us to deny him the real stuff. He wanted to play on a 19 by 19. The best player in Gent at that time was a 6 kyu, and even if that is a modest level, he has been an invaluable teacher, with a Go attitude that I rank top class. I'll call this man Bert. Bert submitted to the pressure of the newcomer and granted him a "real" game. He kindly offered Ernie to take nine stones in order to compensate for the difference in level, as we all know is very common. Ernie was offended by this proposal. He started an exposé about the virtues of Zen Buddhism, and that in a Zen spirit, inequality did not exist and was not celebrated by something as tangible as stones. He added that Go was an oriental game, and as such was embedded in Zen spirit, making the idea of handicap stones an utter violation of the true spirit of the game. Every decent defense we came up with in favour of the handicap system was countered with another chapter of Ernie's Zen library. He concluded: "You can't force me to take a handicap." The other tables had not remained unaware of this discussion, and another 6 kyu said "That's true. Likewise, you can't force us to play with you." Ernie now really started to lose his temper, and Bert accepted to play an even game. And off they went. Ernie, who at least had taken Black, played his first stone. It was now Bert's turn. He passed ... He explained to Ernie that a pass was a legal move. Ernie played another Black stone, looking at his peacefully smiling opponent with an eerie feeling. Only when 9 Black stones were lying on the table, Bert played his first move. Scartol 25k: How very Zen of Bert. As a neophyte of both Go and Zen, this may not be for me to say, but I'll say it anyway: It doesn't strike me as being in the Zen spirit to read a book about something, locate a group of people who practice it, and demand that they play by your rules. As I understand Zen, students are supposed to learn from teachers by doing, not by whining.
MrKoala Two-figure k: What happens in this case when :
In the event that Black (Ernie) passes after White (Bert) has passed, you have to check the rule system that is being used to score the game. In some rule systems, the game is over; in others a third pass is required to end the game. Regardless of the rule system, assuming that Black actually wants to play a game, White (Bert) can use this method to "force" Black (Ernie) to accept a handicap. Stefan: Practically speaking, I think they would end up not playing their club game. It's probably also unlikely they would evolve their relationship into eternal friendship. Chomsky? It can be frustrating to play weekly with weaker players who refuse a handicap. This has been happening for a few weeks in our go club, and I'm afraid it's having a detrimental effect on the games I play. It's not fun for my opponents, who lose by a large margin, and it's not fun for me, since much of the challenge which is in the spirit of Go is lost. In the final analysis, I think the handicap is needed by the stronger player just as much or more than the weaker player. It is only polite to respect your opponent's desire for a challenging game, even it if hurts the pride a little. Often, perhaps only because of being accustomed to playing without handicap, my opponents do actually play better without handicap stones. What could be considered fair komi to make equivalent a "two stone handicap" or such? (Usually I take -9.5)
I suppose bert has won. How did Erni react? Path: BadHabits · Prev: ThrowingTheBoardAgainstTheWallDentingTheWallAndTheBoardPriorToUppercuttingYourOpponent · Next: NegotiatingAfterALoss This is a copy of the living page "Refuse To Take Handicap" at Sensei's Library. (C) the Authors, published under the OpenContent License V1.0. |