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Ongoing Game 2
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A 'group rengo' game where everyone may play. Please place your moves both in the diagram below and the numbered diagram further down. See OngoingGame for further explanation.

Can we improve the quality or interest of these rengos? I've put some thoughts on ImprovingSLRengos. -- MortenPahle

unkx80: Please mark the latest move. Thank you.


[Diagram]
Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (last move marked)


Earlier Analysis:



Discussions to continue below.


[Diagram]
Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (61 - 70)

HolIgor: W68. I made a previous move for white so I've waited a while before making this move. Nobody else volonteered. There are too many urgent points for white at the board at the moment. I believe that white is about 20 points behind now and something has to be undertaken. White has to use the her bits of influence. Unfortunately I could not find sente sequence in the top right corner.

TakeNGive (11k): For B#65 - looks like Black has to choose. Save 3 stones and try to live small on the side? Then White will chase the top center eyeless stones. Instead, give up three useless stones, and connect the right side to the top center (say around P16)? Or, tenuki in favor of something like C7?



[Diagram]
Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (51 - 60)

HolIgor 52: I'd like white to keep thick and solid.

BillSpight 54: If B 37 (marked) had been at a, W 54 would not threaten two cuts.

DaveSigaty 58: thinking of 'a' and 'b' as miai.



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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (41 - 50)

MortenPahle - the question is whether there's anything left to strike once the fist is made ;^)

BillSpight: B 41 looks better at 50, eh?
Then W 40 doesn't look so big. MortenPahle - In fact, B41 looks rather rediculous at present :-(

HolIgor 42: Black has taken the corner. It is an established fact. White's intention is to either limit black in sente or have a furikawari. I wonder why black did not play at '3' at move 39 instead?

DieterVerhofstadt: Yes. IF I would play in that area, I'd indeed played at '3'. The keima leaves a weakness.

MortenPahle: Hmm. This can get tricky. Black 39 may turn out to have been greedy.

DieterVerhofstadt: Thin, not greedy.

Bill: It looks like B 45 will end up with gote. Maybe it would be worth it to play at 48 and take sente.

MortenPahle: I don't understand your comment, Bill. Can you elaborate?

Holigor 46: I thought that white should not determine the position at this move and try to keep a little ahead of black. (--Dieter: you're probably right. I thought this way there would be more aji.)

MortenPahle: At the end of this sequence I am not sure how to continue - I have the feeling that white has thwarted my original intentions, but I take the risk of putting my head on the block and continue what I started .... Just for my continuous improvement, can one of you give me an example of what could have happened if black 39 at 43?

I'll give it a try at Ongoing Game Two Move Thirty Nine Discussed. Sooner or later we will have to WikiMasterEdit this thread as we did with the Ongoing Game.




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Diag.: Ongoing game 2 (31 - 40)

BillSpight 34: Trying to play lightly.

unkx80 33: Because white can play at 34, I guess black 33 might be better off playing at either 34 or 37?

BillSpight: We seem to have stalled, and at a very interesting point, too. ;-) Too much kibitzing? I would find that inhibiting, even though I would be glad for later discussion.

White fell behind early on, but the center fight offers possibilities. :-)

HolIgor: It seems that black resigned.

MortenPahle 37: Why not?

BillSpight: B 37 at 'a' is also a thought.

MortenPahle 39: Make a fist before striking :-)

HolIgor 40: Aye, aye, sir.



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