Aji keshi

    Keywords: Go term

Chinese: -
Japanese: 味消し (aji keshi)
Korean: -

The Japanese go term aji keshi, which has been adopted into English, consists of the terms aji and keshi.

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Aji keshi  

Aji keshi is a move that unnecessarily removes one's own good aji in the opponent's position. As an example, the exchange of B1 for W2 in this diagram is a bad move. By playing this way, Black loses the chance later, when there might have appeared a black stone at a, to peep at W2, followed by White at W1, and Black b. This loss of potential is much more important than the one point of white territory that Black destroys.


Charles Matthews I'd like to amplify this.

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A follow-up  

You have first to imagine a follow-up play, such as black+circle. How did it get there? We can't be sure. It could for example be part of a complex fight spilling out from the top right corner.

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Black takes advantage (gote)  

This is one sequence that can follow. It is clearly good for Black, locally speaking.

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Black takes advantage (sente)  

This is another useful sequence for Black. In this case Black ends in sente. That could be an important difference, in heavy fighting.

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White resists  

So there seems to be a reason for White to play W2, looking to get sente by giving up this stone. B3 looks to connect Black up on the outside.

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White resists, sequel  

W4 is indicated, to prevent that connection. But this leaves Black two good options: Black a White b with sente; or Black b White a Black c White d Black e for a squeeze and outside influence.



In summary, we have looked at just one black follow-up play round here - leading to at least two interesting variations from Black's perspective. The point I wish to make is that aji doesn't consist of a single sequence you wish to preserve as a future possibility. It is the whole complex of interesting things that might happen locally.


(sig) umm... What if white would play in 4 instead:

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White resists  
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White resists  

unkx80: Then B5 happily seals White inside. If W6 captures, then Black gains sente.

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White resists  

Karashi: But White could secure at six while keeping the atari tapir: Black can later close the top side in sente. This is worse for White.


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Nobi  

Bill: Black can also play B3, nobi.


unkx80: I moved the discussion to unkx80 / Go Terms Questions.

Andy: I think the major point is you don't want to collect a small gain, even if it done in sente, if you can leave the situation unsettled and wait for and/or engineer the surrounding situation to turn the residual potential into a larger profit. The initial small sente gain isn't going anywhere, so you can always play it later in the yose where it more properly belongs if nothing better winds up developing.


Pashley Can't it also give an interesting ko threat? It seems to me (12 k?) that if 1 here is played as a ko threat and White ignores it, Black's next move causes grief. For all I know, some other attacking move is better, but 3 is the obvious move. I think W dies in the corner after that, but this is the sort of situation where stronger players often surprise me.

At best, W lives small, enclosed, and in gote. Ignoring the ko threat costs him something.

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W 2 ends a ko elsewhere  


No White is dead:

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The L-shape is dead  
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No room for eyes otherwise  


Tapir: Yes it is a ko threat. But it is a losing ko threat. (You lose all the other potential moves around it. If you make too many losing ko threats even winning the ko may not be enough to gain the cumulated losses back.) It is however played when an early ko arises that White can't afford to lose while lacking ko threats.

Pashley Are you saying there is a loss for Black here even though he kills the corner? Granted the exchange may be a loss overall if the ko is big enough, but it seems quite obvious to me (12k?) that it Black gets a large local profit if white ignores this threat. If I am wrong, I'd love to learn why.

Pashley Thinking about it, I see that if White answers the threat, that's a loss for Black. We are then back to the original discussion of aji keshi. So you are saying this is a good threat only if W cannot afford to answer it.

Willemien: the last one. It is a good threat only if White cannot afford to answer it. (and that is almost only the case in a game deciding ko) the ko threat is about 30 points (please correct the numbers if i am wrong) so if the ko is for more than 50 points and you have no other ko threats.

Uberdude Willemien, I disagree, It can be a good threat even if white answers it (and a pro game database search confirms this). By "good threat" I mean the best move to play in particular game situation. Of course it is aji keshi and thus incurs a local loss, so if you had other big threats available that incurred no loss (such as placements inside a group that threaten to kill it) of comparable size it would be better to play those instead, but it can be worth making such lossy ko threats for a big ko.

tapir: There is a page on ko threat amplification, which refers to this move as a forcing exchange before a huge early game ko, because the follow up threat afterwards is even bigger (and with limited threats in the opening, this often is enough). Also, who finally wins the ko and what ko threats your opponent has is important for evaluation. If you take a limited loss but thereby win a huge ko when your opponent doesn't get enough compensation that should be ok, but if you lose the ko anyway your loss making threat was no good. (One should count ko threats! Hard I know, because you have to calculate approx. move values for many moves.) Incidentally I played it yesterday as a ko threat.

Pashley How many threats does Black actually have here? I'm not sure this is the best sequence, but it looks like all the White moves below are forced since without them the corner dies.

I suspect there may be some way to get even more threats out of this, perhaps with a clever placement inside, but I cannot find it. I also want a way to get the threats without leaving W what look to me like excellent moves at a or b, but I cannot find that either. Stronger players, any comment?

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Multiple threats  

Bill: Part of the aji in aji keshi is ko threat potential. That should have been made clear.

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Better for White?  

willemien: I think this is better for White than where W4 is at B5 (still 3 ko threats but white is better off than in the previous diagram

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Cut other side  

Uberdude: B3 cuts on the wrong side, below is the way to play ko threats here (ko moves omitted) for black. Note that he gets B5 which is a useful move for the wall on the outside. Note that instead of connecting at W6 white can also consider capturing at W8 directly to make black's next threat (atari at 6) smaller if white really wants to resolve the ko, but white is then pushed low.

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Another cost of threats  

The threat at B7 is another example of aji keshi: later black may well play at B1 to keep building the wall. If black has played the B7 threat white can safely hane and there is no cut due to the liberties from capturing B3. However, if black hasn't made the B7 threat then black can cut and white can't immediately capture the stone, so particularly with a black stone for support down the side this cut could be powerful for black so white couldn't safely hane.



Aji keshi last edited by Blake on July 2, 2013 - 16:18
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